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Covid Will Have Larger Impact on Commercial Than Residential Real Estate, Says New York Architect

Mark Stumer of Mojo Stumer predicts that larger lobbies and elevators may be a result of the virus

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Mrs Stumer and his minimalist home design projects.

Composite: Mojo Stumer; Courtesy of Mark Stumer
Mrs Stumer and his minimalist home design projects.
Composite: Mojo Stumer; Courtesy of Mark Stumer

Mark Stumer, founding principal of New York-based architecture and interior design firm Mojo Stumer Associates, is known for designing minimalist homes, often in areas where the majority of homes are more traditional in style.

Recently, the firm completed the design of the amenities and common areas for 5Pointz, a new 48-story rental tower in Long Island City, New York. 

The firm has four associates and a staff of more than 20 architects and interior designers.

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Mr. Stumer, 69, has practiced architecture as a principal for over 30 years. He graduated Pratt Institute—where he now serves on the board—in 1974 with a Bachelor of Architecture degree, becoming a Registered Architect in 1979. Mr. Stumer presently sits on the board of the Architectural Landmarks Commission for Kings Point on Long Island—where he lives.

We caught up with him to discuss slowing down during the pandemic, the future of residential and commercial real estate and more. 

Mansion Global: How have things changed for Mojo Stumer since the Covid-19 pandemic?

Mark Stumer: We got everyone Surface Pros, and now we’re as productive at home as we were in the office. We’re more focused, and there are fewer distractions than in the office. Now when someone needs my opinion, I look at it quickly on the computer and we move on.

Something we’re going to adopt even after this is allowing everyone to work from home one day a week.

And in terms of clients, we just had one project canceled in Boca [Raton, Florida]. The delay put him past the building cycle. Even though the delay was three months, it was putting him back for a year and he had to put the property up for sale.

The work we have now will continue. It’s the new work that may not start. But projects that were in the middle of work will go ahead.

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MG: Do you expect design tastes will change as a result of the pandemic?

MS: There will be a shift. Your home might have better filtered bathrooms, dispensers for hand sanitizers, et cetera. But once you close the door to your house, your lifestyle doesn’t change that much. You may clean your sheets more often, filter your air more, but I don’t see single-family houses changing much.

Buildings will be different. Lobbies may get bigger. The weight loads for elevators may change. Doors may not close on an elevator with more than four to five people on it, or elevators will get bigger. Corridors might be wider, things like that.

In the workplace, I’d imagine we’ll see even more change. Open offices are done. Cubicles are going to be back, more enclosed spaces.

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MG: How would you describe your dream property, and has that changed since Covid started?

MS: We live in Kings Point in Great Neck and have been going to Vermont to get away for 20 years. I’d like a simple glass box that I designed on a lake in Vermont.

We do very contemporary work, and I’d want something like that. We just finished an apartment in Faena in Miami that [you’ll see pictures of] everywhere. It’s so amazing.

I’d love a compound. I’d love to have a studio for myself, ‘cause I do photography. In fact, 90% of the photography on our website and Instagram, I took. I also have five motorcycles, so I need a garage for that. And I have three kids and they each need one house. They’d be connected by decks.

MG: Are you seeing any silver linings to all of this?

MS: I’ve always worked 60 to 70 hours a week, and I’ve learned to relax a bit. And I don’t work Saturdays anymore. You realize that you can put down work and relax. Life will go on. You have to relax.

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MG: What’s the best amenity to have in a home right now?

MS: We’re doing a project at 5Pointz. We’re the interior architects, doing all the amenity spaces. There are gyms, pools, game rooms, roof decks, cooking rooms, et cetera. They think this will end and it’ll go back to normalcy.

MG: Are there parts of the market that will likely bounce back sooner than others?

MS: New homes. A lot of people will move out of the city. People have been cooped up and want a change. That’s a reaction to an immediate pain and a quick response.

The commercial market will likely drop off by 40% to 50%. A lot of offices will downsize their space. And landlords will jump at downsizing ‘cause they don’t want to lose the tenants. If I give everyone in my office days to work from home, then people won’t be there, and there are work stations I can do without.

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MG: How do you define luxury when it comes to real estate?

MS: When it’s urban, it’s about luxury, places like the West Village, or overlooking the water in a city. And space. Big, great location, overlooking the Hudson [River]—that’s urban luxury.

For a suburban property, it’s land. A lot of land, and beautifully landscaped at that.

MG: If you had the choice of living in a new development versus a prime resale property, which would you choose and why?

MS: New all the way. When I see something, I like to rip out the whole space.

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